Kaj 發表於 2008-5-15 00:47

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dright, you should buy the 218 from eBay.It is about $3000-$4000, still cheaper than the 220...

Here is some comments on what is good bokeh:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/bokeh.htm



By the way, 85L is a great great great legendary Canon lens, but it is only great for taking picture for Mei Mei...70-200 is more convenient when you shoot people, landscape and sport...

dright 發表於 2008-5-15 01:30

原帖由 Kaj 於 2008-5-14 11:47 發表 http://forum.canonfans.biz/images/common/back.gif
By the way, 85L is a great great great legendary Canon lens, but it is only great for taking picture for Mei Mei
現在你曉得為什麼我的85L比較少出勤的原因了吧…
不過我的女朋友過幾天就要來陪我啦,哈哈哈哈!

Ken Rockwell... 我是常看他的文章啦,但他說的話我是有的信有的不信
重點是,他對於bokeh品質的定義還是不科學…
問題是,bokeh品質可以有科學的定義嗎?
(請把這一段話當成LDS吧 :-) )
(其實上一段話也滿LDS的…)

joejoe9 發表於 2008-5-16 03:49

Hi, dright. Do you think 70mm end is still too long on x1.6 body for portrait?
It looks like the EF-S 55-250mm IS is a better fit (more useful focal range) for my 20D -- don\'t compare the image quality to white lenses. From many reviews, it\'s not bad at all considering its price. This probabily enough for me.
BTW, it\'s out of stock everywhere here in U.S!

dright 發表於 2008-5-16 04:24

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看你要拍那種人像吧
我覺得在1.6 crop body上,24-70L比較適合拍人像
全身的、半身的、大頭照都可用
但我還是會盡量把85L拿出來用,因為畫質實在有差
70比較適合拍半身的照片
55-250焦段是不錯啦,又便宜,只是我覺得它的光圈不夠大
其實買來用個兩年,如果覺得光圈不夠大,再去買個大光圈的也不遲
Canon鏡的畫質不會差到那去,而且有人說55-250畫質比75-300 IS好哩
便宜的好處是,換鏡時就算懶得把老鏡賣出去也不覺得虧

我沒用過55-250,只能從照片中猜…
1. 沒有focus distance limiter,所以對焦的速度可能不會很快
2. IS沒有分mode 1 及 mode 2,可能新的IS線路會自動偵測腳架吧…
3. MF對焦環好細…

我不覺得買這鏡頭有什麼不好就是了
當你用個鏡頭,拍了很多照片,努力把照片拍好,然後發現你的鏡頭已經跟不上你的標準了
這就是進步的痕跡

BTW, Kaj, the rebate does work with 42nd St. Photo!All the rebate forms I found require that the camera and printer be bought from some specific dealers.

Kaj 發表於 2008-5-16 04:35

55-250 is excellent lens....But it is EF-S...If your budget is OK, just go for 70-200f4IS ba.....    Trust me, when you get used to 17-55mm picture quality, you won\'t satisfy 55-250....    If you are so so serious on taking great pictures for Mei Mei, then go for the 85LII...F1.2 won\'t disappoint you.....

Kaj 發表於 2008-5-16 04:38

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dright, I saw your flick....You took lots of landsape and macro flower photos...I think you need the 5D for sure..... 1.6x just wastes your 85L power....

dright 發表於 2008-5-16 05:37

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其實我也想在結婚大限之前買下5D :-)
不過離rebate期限還有兩個月,不用那麼急

Kaj 發表於 2008-5-16 05:53

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結婚大限?Congratulations first!!!    Yeah, you better buy as many equipments as possible before you get married.After that, you will be hopeless to buy anything....

I am still debating to buy a new 5D or an used 1DsII in eBay....I don\'t have that much faith in 5D after seeing lots of people are suffering on 5D bugs.....

eec 發表於 2008-5-16 06:28

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dont buy both, go buy 1D II N

joejoe9 發表於 2008-5-16 06:38

Kaj, you are absolutely right.
I guess I will want to buy 70-200 F4 IS after I get the 55-250 since the image quality of 17-55 is really great.
真是不歸路阿!

joejoe9 發表於 2008-5-16 06:54

Congradulation, dright. What kaj said is true -- you better get all the gears you want before you marry.
5D is really awesome!But it looks like the 5D II is coming soon.

dright 發表於 2008-5-16 07:17

各位放心,我的女朋友很善解人意的
我的30D及一些鏡頭也是她來找我的時候買的,她也沒什麼反對
我怕的只是結婚後錢會比較緊而已
還有半年的單身期,要做的事還真多啊…

Kaj,我覺得1DS2和5D價錢差一倍,有那麼難決定嗎?
有錢就買1DS2,沒錢就買5D
我是不太喜歡1D系列那種大台的機身啦(可能是酸葡萄心理)

joejoe,等你拿到了55-250就post點照片吧
說不定畫質意外的好看,你就不會想買小小白IS了
如果你也住東岸,八月底等我畢業了說不定我們可以見個面,我可以把我的小小白IS借你用用看

英語時間…
eec,你應該說don\'t buy either
don\'t buy both是指兩者選一個買吧的思

Kaj 發表於 2008-5-16 07:53

原帖由 dright 於 2008-5-16 07:17 發表 http://forum.canonfans.biz/images/common/back.gif
各位放心,我的女朋友很善解人意的
我的30D及一些鏡頭也是她來找我的時候買的,她也沒什麼反對


婚前我老婆也不反對我買任何東西, 但婚後.......
希望你不會有我這種情況出現...

eec 發表於 2008-5-16 08:11

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我的英文水平差了, 還跟人說自己是大學生

沒錯喔, 婚前錢是你的, 婚後錢就是她的

joejoe9 發表於 2008-5-16 08:35

dright, 被你們講講看來不敗入小小白IS真是對不起自己是C家的
I just checked this website: www.the-digital-picture.com
to compare the resolutoin of 55-250 and 小小白IS
小小白IS blows out 55-250 in any aspect. That website also has pictures to compare the two lenses.
As you know, I can only accept pictures equal or better than 17-55 now
I really wish that Canon can make a lens like \"EF-S 55-150 F2.8 IS USM\" one day.

我以前也在東岸(NY)待過兩年說
西岸這裡周圍的人都是N家的多
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